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Council Candidate Wood Calls for a 'Reset' to City Hall

Republican Bob Wood says the city needs better guidance, direction, planning and communication.

 

Republican candidate for City Council Bob Wood called for a “reset” to City Hall on Thursday night before a packed courtyard at Gadsby’s Tavern.

“We all love this city, its neighborhoods, its diversity… its history… its educated community. … We rally around issues that are important to us,” he said, adding that there’s been enough of city planning that “makes us not neighbors but enemies.”

Wood, a graduate of West Point and a retired military leader who holds an economics degree, said he has worked on putting communities together in Bosnia, Germany and other areas and it can be done in Alexandria.

“We see plans without citizen engagement and analysis,” he said. “Why are we rushing to failure?”

He cited the installation of the controversial BRAC-133 complex, which he referred to as "Mount Wastemore," and called it a “monument to lousy planning” that is exacerbating already complex traffic problems. Wood said the new bus lines to the complex out of King Street Metro would only further clog up the area.

Wood reiterated throughout his remarks to the crowd, which included Councilmembers Frank Fannon and Alicia Hughes as well as mayoral aspirant Andrew Macdonald, that the city needs stronger leaders who can give proper guidance and direction to staff.

Former Vice Mayor Bill Cleveland, who is also a veteran, at the event said he’s a supporter because Wood “knows how to take and give orders and he thinks about the little guy—the people who are on the line.”

Karen Byers of Old Town who identified herself as a “conservative,” said there needs to be more balance on council.

Councilman Fannon said he’s excited to see Wood’s entry into the race. “Voters want options and citizens will have quality options” to choose from in the General Election in November, he said.

Jason Howell, who is running as an independent to unseat Rep. Jim Moran in the 8th congressional district of Virginia, said he admires Wood because he brings to the table “experience from his life that is not just political… and he understands the importance of creating relationships."

“I’m for anyone who is excited for progress,” Howell said.

West End Alexandrian John Ray said he is on board with Wood after hearing of Wood’s concerns over BRAC and the Beauregard corridor.

The scene was bespeckled with stickers, magnets, posters, yard signs and other campaign paraphernalia sporting Wood’s slogan: “Reset City Hall,” which Wood explained stands for Respect, Excellence, Service, Economy and Trust.

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Related Topics: Alicia Hughes, BRAC, Beauregard Plan, Bob Wood, Frank Fannon, Jason Howell, city council 2012, and elections 2012

Jim Miller

12:18 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Since there are only 15 Republicans in the City of Alexandria, and only 14 members of the Alexandria Republican City Committee, and Bob Wood is now the 'latest and greatest' of their group to throw his name in the hat to run for Alexandria City Council, isn't it just sad that this group can't even put forth even six potential candidates to run? Yes, Frank Fannon, in my opinion, is the ONLY Republican worth voting for, at all, but he's the lone exception. It's just sad to see this band of Don Quixote's chase windmills in Alexandria, thinking that they are somehow going to win any elected office. Sure, Frank Fannon and Alicia Hughes won in 2009, but that's because people started to see through the failed policies brought forth by members of the entrenched and ensconced Alexandria Democratic Committee, who have shepherded a group of feckless lemmings to follow their whim wherever it mistakenly takes its citizenry. To truly 'Reset City Hall', the City of Alexandria needs to have candidates of true vision, candidates who have an understanding of how to run a business, of how to manage a budget, of how to forecast urban planning so that there are good schools, and good transportation, along with affordable housing for everyone. Don't get me wrong, Alexandria is quite a nice city to live in, no question, but it could be much better. It's future though shouldn't be predicated on the misadventures of the ARCC or the ADC, both who leave anyone with any intelligence in wonder.

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Wood for Council

3:12 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012

Mr. Miller, you are correct regarding what attributes are required to Reset City Hall. Please learn more about Bob's candidacy. He is looking forward to the opportunity to introduce himself to concerned and thoughtful citizens such as yourself regarding the future of our home town. Bob firmly believes it is policy not politics that will bring our community together for every citizen. If you would like to speak with him one-on-one, ask him the tough questions and gauge for yourself what he has to offer that can be arranged. You may request a meeting directly at http://www.woodforcouncil.com/contact.html

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Jim Miller

12:12 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012

'Wood for Council', no offense, but if I thought that Mr. Wood would have a viable chance of even winning a seat for the Alexandria City Council, I would make an attempt to take an opportunity to have a dialogue with him concerning many issues that will have to be addressed by the next council. Mr. Wood may be a great man, and he may mean well, especially with his theme of 'Reset City Hall', but everyone knows that Republicans are vastly outnumbered in Alexandria and that he doesn't have much of a chance to win in November. Alternatively, the Alexandria Democratic Committee has four candidates, two incumbents, Smedberg and Pepper, two woeful has beens, Lovain and Wilson, who will be running against Mr. Wood and Frank Fannon. I would be shocked if Alicia Hughes has the gall to run for reelection, but, like a bad penny, she always shows up, late, too. By the way, Alexandria voters are, and should be, very thankful, that Frank Fannon is a true moderate, and not a whack job right wing conservative zealot or a Republican ideologue, or he would have never got elected in 2009. As a progressive Democrat, I can easily support Fannon because of his expertise in the business community with SunTrust Mortgage that gives him a strong edge over others because he can help to fiscally manage Alexandria through the tough recession we're in right now. Initial observations by me, and other Democrats, is that Mr. Wood is a hard-to-the-right Republican conservative. Conservatives don't win here!

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Jim Miller

12:25 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Additionally, I, for one, would seriously like to know, why the Alexandria Republican City Committee is always deemed as a 'non factor' in Alexandria politics. The Alexandria Democratic Committee, as sadly managed, and as rag tag as that bunch can be, had fourteen candidates run for six slots in the Alexandria Democratic Primary last Tuesday. Regardless of my thoughts of their leadership not having a firm grasp of how to run their organization, they at least had a wide spectrum of potential candidates from all four points of our city, men, women, black, white, hispanic, gay, different religions, etc., which gave Democratic voters in Alexandria many choices of who they wanted to see get elected to City Hall this November. The ARCC chose to have a party canvass. For what? For two and a half candidates of Frank Fannon, Bob Wood, and the half going to Alicia "Always Late" Hughes. How embarrassing is that? Seriously. I must admit of my interest in supporting Fannon in his effort to get reelected, only because I don't feel that having a full slate of people from one party, Democratic, will be efficient for our city. Look, two weeks before the 2009 election, Lovain, Wilson, Smedberg, Pepper and Euille ALL voted to raise residential property taxes. That was the tipping point, I feel, why Lovain and Wilson got tossed out of office. But now, in 2012, the ADC must be licking their chops at beating Bob Wood, who's a right wing conservative, and Alicia "Always Late" Hughes. Sad.

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JohnFitzgerald

8:24 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012

There were numerous Democrats and Independents at Bob Woods campaign launch event on Thursday which was extremely well attended. I would really encourage you and others to take the time to get to know Bob as I believe (and Democrats supporting him) that he is a fantastic candidate and about as non partisan as they come. I believe that Bob has a great chance at winning a seat on council. Jim thanks for the dialog. I do believe that it is constructive.

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Jim Miller

1:33 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

John, the perception is that Bob Wood is an ultra right wing conservative Republican, who may be a very nice and likable man, but, even so, conservative Republicans don't have a chance of winning even if the Alexandria Democratic Committee put up a dead guy to run against him. Ten of out ten elections, the dead guy that the ADC would put up against Bob Wood, would win, and BIG TIME, too. If Bob Wood comes off as not being as conservative, as perceived, than he might have a chance. Frank Fannon is clearly a guy who is absolutely not a right wing conservative wing nut. That's why Frank Fannon won in 2009, because he's very much a moderate who has to pander to the conservative tilt of some people in the Alexandria Republican City Committee, so he doesn't lose their support. That's a part of Frank Fannon's overall appeal to people in Alexandria, or so I have investigated from talking to friends and checking out stuff on him on the Internet. Fannon seems to be very well liked among everyone in Alexandria, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, straight, gay, bi, transgender, all religions or creeds. I've talked to many people who have told me that Frank Fannon is a guy who truly just cares about people, and he wants to help solve issues that people have, to genuinely want to help people. That's the perception that Bob Wood is going to have to have to even have anyone look at his long-shot candidacy. Also, stay away from Alicia "Always Late" Hughes because she's just trouble.

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Katy Cannady

8:12 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

I have no idea where Bob Wood is on the spectrum of Republican opinion on national issues. As a Democrat, I can not claim to be an expert on that spectrum anyway. Mr. Wood was appointed to the waterfront working group which met for months, most of the time at 7 a.m. He came on time and worked hard to improve the waterfront plan. The Mayor appointed three people, including Wood who were from Old Town and four people from elsewhere in the city. The four member majority prevailed on most votes, of course. Because I attended the meetings as an observer, I can say that Mr. Wood worked hard on trying to improve the waterfront plan. He was one of the two co-authors of the report the work group made. Once the meetings ended and the report was submitted, the Mayor and Council accepted their report and then mostly ignored it. In retrospect I think appointing the working group was only ploy to encourage people to lose interest in the waterfront issues. It did not work, the public hearing last January went on for 12 hours.

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JohnFitzgerald

8:48 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Like I said earlier, my sense is that Bob is about as middle of the road as one could be. He has had a very impressive career and I am grateful that someone of his calibre who clearly loves this city a lot (he went to TC), is willing to run for council and serve the community. Jim would you be willing to sit down and speak with Bob then report back to this group as to your impressions of him?

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Jim Miller

9:07 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

John, as a progressive liberal Democrat, I actually feel that there should be balance to City Hall, that we can't have a pack of idiots making group decisions together all because they're of the same party, Democrats, so I feel that there definitely needs to be some Republicans on board to keep an even keel, or we might go even deeper troubles with the likes of Tim Lovain, Justin Wilson, Del Pepper, Paul Smedberg or Bill Euille. By the way, I like Bill, he's a very nice guy, but he's mainly around to cut ribbons and to give grand opening speeches, than to provide effective forward thinking leadership. And the other four that I mentioned? Feckless. It's like they think it's their right to be on the Alexandria City Council, especially with Lovain and Wilson, who got thumped by Frank Fannon and Alicia "Always Late" Hughes. If Bob Wood is a moderate, he's going to have to be more effective in stating his case to that fact. Everyone in Alexandria knows that Frank Fannon is a left-leaning moderate, which shows how smart he is because he couldn't win as a conservative Republican wing nut in this town. Bob Wood would be wise to learn as much as he can off of the Fannon Playbook, as to being a true 'man of the people', which apparently Frank Fannon does quite well. As for me, I am just one person, so Bob Wood needs to impress a much wider audience, to tell his story to the Alexandria Times and Alexandria Gazette Packet, to let voters know he's not a big conservative nut job!

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JohnFitzgerald

10:04 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Good points Jim. It seems like there is a great deal of dissatisfaction within the city/voters and specifically within the population of self described democrats in alexandria regarding the current dem candidates. Darn it, it looks like we are going to be forced to cross party lines if we want any assemblance of change in the city. That irritates me but like you, I will likely vote for some R's and I's. I want balance and people on council who are going to listen to me and not lecture me...

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OT insider

10:50 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Um....there isn't "a great deal of dissatisfaction within the city/voters". The primary results clearly showed that folks are generally happy with the direction the city is moving in. I don't think Mr Wood's message is going to resonate here, especially up against a national Democratic slate in Nov.

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JohnFitzgerald

11:31 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Greetings o t insider (Nate?) - how then do you explain the performance of Ms. Silberberg? She won 6 precincts I think and beat pepper and chapman whose finance director championed athe walker smear campaign. Chapman, a Euille protege knew nothing about the scheme I understand.. Silberberg was only 30 or so votes behind Wilson. Also the non-Euille inc. candidates scored a pretty decent number of votes, so to call June 12 an endorsement of euille's hyper-development approach is a stretch my man... Voter turnout was low.. Throw some stats At me which support your position. Let's work to understanD what's really going on and how voters really feel. Our party has been hijacked it seems...

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OT insider

9:04 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012

>Throw some stats At me which support your position.
5 of the 6 Democratic winners (that's 83%) voted for or stated their support the waterfront and Beauregard redevelopment plans. The fact that they were elected supporting these positions (which were of course the marquee issues of the campaign) shows that the citizenry is happy with the direction the city is going in. Or to quote the Washington Post: "In an election in which much of the rhetoric was aimed at the council, the reelection of Pepper and Smedberg and the return of Lovain and Wilson could be seen as an endorsement of the status quo by the 17 percent of voters who cast ballots." Which I believe pretty much supports my position.

>Let's work to understanD what's really going on and how voters really feel.
The voters who cared voted. I think we know how they feel.

>Our party has been hijacked it seems.
Not sure what you mean here. Are you saying the elections were rigged?

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Jim Miller

12:30 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

OT insider, there is an apparent overall dissatisfaction in regards to politics in the City of Alexandria, and that's a reflection of the fact that we just had a record low voter turn out for the recent Alexandria Democratic and Republican Primaries. That shows that voters who could have voted, chose to not participate for a variety of reasons, I'm quite sure, but the main one is that they just don't care, and when you lose a large base of the electorate who doesn't care who runs the city, yes, they have no right to complain, but you also don't have a true legitimate vote of the electorate as a whole. I understand that it's tough to get 100 percent of the vote, unless you're in Cuba, where it's rigged, but in Alexandria, the main stock of the voting base absolutely doesn't care about Bill Euille being mayor, or anyone who's on the Alexandria City Council, either. This is a national trend, so it's not just something that is going on in Alexandria, but it's still significant. Please, no one can say how Alexandrians felt on an election with a low voter turn out. To say so would be ignorant and would ignore the troubles that both the Alexandria Democratic Committee and the Alexandria Republican City Committee have created, with the ADC running amuk, and the ARCC not really running at all. I'm a very, very liberal progressive Democrat, but even I can see that the ADC is a train wreck. Many of my liberal Democratic friends in Alexandria don't support the ADC either!

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OT insider

8:30 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

I don't disagree that we are generally disenchanted with our government and I also wish we had higher turnout in ALL elections, not just this one. As you pointed out (and contradicted yourself) this is a national problem that is pervasive throughout all levels of government and it has nothing to do with the current state of affairs in the city. You have no evidence to support your claim that "there is an apparent overall dissatisfaction in regards to politics in the City of Alexandria" - at least no more than anywhere else in the country.

My point is that the majority of people who did choose to vote clearly showed that they like the direction that the current mayor and council are leading the city in. That is simply a fact you cannot dispute. Those who didn't vote at least passively accepted what's going on.

I already quoted the Post, which I guess you ignored, so I'll try the Gazette:
"Despite calls for change at City Hall, Alexandria voters sent a message Tuesday that they like the recent direction of city government, and they selected a slate of candidates that continues the status quo."

Jim Miller

11:08 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Mr. OT Insider, which I'm guessing stands for "Old Town" or "Over Thinker"? If you're satisfied with the way things are, you are either uniformed, uncaring, or simply a lemming who needs to take direction, because quite clearly, there are a host of problems that the Alexandria City Council needs to tackle in the next three years. The potential problem with our balloting process in Alexandria this November, is that more often than not, many voters won't actually go through the whole process of voting everyone on the ballot. In Richmond, in 2008, for example, a traditionally Democratic city, a majority of voters there didn't go down the entire ballot to vote for their city council members, and the very same thing has a great potential of happening in Alexandria, as well. Additionally, there are thousands of voters in Alexandria who don't keep up with how their city is run, let alone have a clue as to who is on their city council. They maybe have heard of Mayor Bill Euille, but other than him, they couldn't name even one council member. The sad fact is that the majority of people who can vote in Alexandria simply just don't care about how their city is managed. That was brought out as evidence with the Alexandria Republican and Democratic Primaries, this past Tuesday, with a record low voter turn out. Voters simply don't care and when they get ambivalent towards Alexandria city politics, like they are now, we're in trouble. But if you believe different, well, wow, okay.

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OT insider

9:05 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012

I'm so sick of your holier than thou, "if you don't think our city government sucks then you must be "uniformed, uncaring, or simply a lemming who needs to take direction". BS! You do not own any type of moral high ground here so stop acting like you do. There are plenty of clear thinking, good people (even some who live right here in Old Town) who are happy with the direction that Mayor Euille and the current council has taken the city in. Stop patronizing us and come to grips with reality!

All of your "reset" candidates lost in the primary (with the exception of Ms. Silberberg ) and the same fate is in store for Mr. Wood and Mr. Macdonald in November, especially with Barack Obama and Tim Kaine at the top of the Democratic ticket. You know that but I'm sure it won't stop you from spewing this type of rhetoric for the rest of the summer. Oh joy.

Jim Miller

12:12 am on Monday, June 18, 2012

John, thank you for your good points here. Actually, there are a lot of Democrats who are thoroughly disgusted with the 'good ole boy/girl network' of the Alexandria Democratic Committee, who with their rudderless leadership, have made themselves out to be the best thing since sliced bread. They even 'won' a spit cup as a small token of appreciation for all of their, uhm, 'work', or lack their of. Wait? The ADC Clue Phone is ringing, and they're not picking it up. The city has a voter make up with the majority, slight as it is, is Democratic. The Virginia Democratic Committee gives those cups away as token gifts. They don't mean anything. The ARCC recently 'won' a plaque for being the best GOP party in Virginia. Hello? Their clue phone is off the hook! There is a very large block of Independent voters, which tend to often vote Democratic. If the ADC was doing a better job, which clearly they aren't, they wouldn't have been so shallow as to work to move the City Council elections from May to November. That's all because two of their brethren, Tim Lovain and Justin Wilson, got really pissed off and upset that they lost to Frank Fannon and Alicia "You Voted For Me?" Hughes in 2009, with Fannon running as a Republican, and Hughes then as an Independent. By moving the City Council election to November, Alexandria voters are potentially not going to spend time going through the entire ballot. It happened in Richmond in 2008, and it's bound to happen in Alexandria, too.

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Jim Miller

12:32 am on Monday, June 18, 2012

By the way, Bob Wood has had just, hold on, drum roll please... and may I have the envelope please? Thank you! Wow, he's had just two, count them as "2", the BIG number t-w-o, followers on Twitter, with this publication being one of the two. Ouch! Watch out, Alexandria! We now can see that Bob Wood's campaign is running like a herd of thundering turtles! KMart has more traction with their famous 'blue light specials' than our said, Mr. Wood, has not received in Alexandria. Hey, he may be a very genuine nice guy, but in my personal opinion, he just doesn't have a shot. Frank Fannon, on the other hand, as a Republican, could be the only one of the ARCC to possibly win in November, be even he should respect the fact that the ADC fiefdom screwed him, and Republicans and Independents and Alexandria voters, in general. Plus, wow, God love her, Alicia Hughes. Look, I'm sure in her heart that she thinks she means well, but she has to know that she can't win in November. Even Stevie Wonder can see that. And for Fannon, and now Wood, to be saddled with a habitually late Alicia Hughes, who 'accidentally' got elected in 2009, it can and will bring their campaigns down, the more she orbits around them. But, if Bob Wood wants to convince voters that he's a left-leaning moderate, just like Fannon, well he's going to have to go to the Patch, Alexandria Times and Alexandria Gazette Packet to let them ask him probing questions, so that voters can learn more about his campaign.

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Jim Miller

12:39 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

OT insider, I supported Allison Silberberg because I think that she can be a true force of good in our city for the next three years. She has vision and a depth of experience that will help to have City Hall become much more focused, instead of being as wild and out of touch as the most current City Council has been. Of course, some of that 'wildness' actually comes from Alicia "Always Late" Hughes, who I do believe really means well, but her time is soon to be over, too. I actually believe that there are a lot of good things that the Alexandria City Council has done, not many actually, but a few, and I believe though, that you can't have retreads which the voters rejected in 2009, like Tim Lovain, and Justin Wilson, or Del Pepper, who's been in office since Edison invented the light bulb. Paul Smedberg, well, my only issue with him is that he, like the others I mentioned, were a part of the group that brought us 'BRAC-133' to Seminary Road, which showed that the then Alexandria City Council was asleep at the wheel. Even if there aren't any traffic tie ups yet, the mere fact that the U.S. Government rolled in on the Alexandria City Council, when that elected body could have blocked that location, shows they have a fundamental misunderstanding of how to manage the future of our city. I'm quite sure that there will be hordes of lemmings coming to that gang's defense, too, all who are mistaken into believing that BRAC-133 is a good deal. Really? A good deal? Really?

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Jim Miller

11:04 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012

So I'm to take it that a 'record low voter turn out' in the City of Alexandria means that voters are okay with City Hall? While I can 'maybe' see your point, an overall lack of participation by quite a large block of eligible voters in Alexandria could also mean that they really don't care, as have given up their ability to cast a ballot and have chosen not to participate. People don't vote for various reasons, but I wouldn't include that everyone in Alexandria is neccessarily happy with City Hall. To do so would be misinterpreting how Alexandrians REALLY feel about local politics.

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Gail G

8:06 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

A few observations on the Dem primary: 14 candidates was too many. Some voters were overwhelmed with all the info, calls, mailers, etc. so they just voted for the ones they knew. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't know kind of thinking...

In addition, the rain kept some voters away. It seems a weak excuse not to vote, but it is a factor. So, we had low turnout and it was the same people who always vote in primaries, so we had the same results. If Frank stays in the race, he could possibly pick off one of the Dems, but with huge turnout in November, it's iffy. Rumor is that if David Englin resigns, Frank will challenge Rob Krupicka for that seat. That would be silly of Frank because there is no way he could beat Rob, but that's the rumor. Alicia Hughes is on the ballot, but won't be a factor. I've only met Bob Wood once, and he seems nice enough and intelligent enough, but he was evasive on some issues I asked him about. I certainly won't vote for him, but I admire him for running.

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Jim Miller

3:42 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Gail, good points. 14 candidates did seem to be a bit overboard, but, hey, your 'good friends' on the Alexandria Democratic Committee let that all happen. There were great people running, but not all of them were clearly 'ready for prime-time'. Thank God that Sean Holihan didn't win, so we won't have to hear from him, or his partner, Danny Barefoot, anymore! Sure, they'll be 'lurking', but voter beware of those two because they're traditionally up to no good, which is quite evident if you Google their names. But, I'm sure there are some typical Alexandria lemmings who think that they're just two nice guys. NOT! And, yes, the rain I'm sure scared some people away, for sure, to bring about such a record low voter turn out. As far as Frank Fannon's prospects for this upcoming November? Well, I happen to think that they're pretty good. First and foremost, the guy is a fifth-generation Alexandrian. He was born here, raised here, went to school here, has life-long connections throughout the city with thousands of friends and businesses, plus, he's a very successful millionaire who runs the SunTrust Mortgage office in Old Town. Frank's also a left-leaning moderate, and, as a Republican, that's a good thing, because it makes him more palatable to Democrats, but also attractive to Independents who will view him as someone who can bring balance to the Alexandria City Council. Frank Fannon, John Chapman, and Bill Euille are 'home grown', all born in the City of Alexandria.

cwer

8:45 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

What is the basis of saying "record low voter turnout"? In May 2009 when we elected Council - it was not a primary - 14,419 people voted. Last Tuesday 14,441 voted in the primary. As for people being confused and only voting for people they knew - presumably meaning less than 6 for those who took the Democratic ballot - in May 2009 there were an average of 4.57 selections per voter. Last week there was an average of 5.03. Of course 2009 includes Republicans who did not have a full slate to vote for, presumably lowering the average votes per voter.

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OT insider

6:42 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Exactly. It was not a "record low", just another case of a relatively low turnout among eligible voters. Nothing new and certainly nothing unique to our city. I guess Jim thinks that if he keeps saying it long enough people will actually start to believe it.

Jim Miller

3:55 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Cwer, look it up. The election for mayor and Alexandria City Council in May of 2009, was an extremely low voter turn out, as was the recent Alexandria Democratic and Republican primaries. The majority of people in the City of Alexandria are merely following a national trend of giving up on politics. Without baiting any of your neighbors, ask them to name who our mayor is, along with asking them to name all six members on the Alexandria City Council. Most can't do it. I actually tried it out over a 30 day period, recently, where I asked a random 106 friends and acquaintances, all who live within the borders of the City of Alexandria, and only one person, just one, out of 106 people from all four corners of the city, could actually name the mayor and all current members on the Alexandria City Council. A third had heard of Bill Euille, and mostly everyone I knew could only name maybe a couple of current council members. When I asked each person why they couldn't name everyone, each had different reasons, but most said they were just too busy, that whoever they voted wouldn't make a difference in their lives, anyway. It's just a sad testament that Alexandrians are following what is happening all over the country, with a growing malaise towards government. In regards to November, I know for a fact that there will be a significant number of voters who will not vote for every race on their ballots. It actually happens a lot. It happened in Richmond in 2008 and will happen here, too.

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Jim Miller

4:53 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Gail, I will also agree with you in regards to the train wreck, Alicia "Always Late" Hughes, who doesn't have a snowball's chance of getting reelected in November. Equally, and more to the point, Bob Wood, too, won't get any traction at all to get any amount of significant votes to even be deemed as a strong candidate. But there are only 15 Republicans in the City of Alexandria, and 14 of them are members of the sad little 'train that couldn't', the Alexandria Republican City Committee. The Alexandria Democratic Committee, an equally inept, but more politically secure organization, has Del Pepper, God love her, running again. Age has nothing to do with Del, but it's merely the fact that she really doesn't do anything of significance anymore. Her time of substance to the council has come and gone, and she has to know it, too. Tim Lovain and Justin Wilson, to political has beens, who both embarrassingly lost in 2009, I sadly think they might have another shot to get back on council this November. The lemmings will vote for them. Paul Smedberg, well, nice guy, who helped bring in BRAC-133, but he had other clowns join him for that three tent circus. I actually voted and support Allison Silberberg, and now John Chapman, too. I think that it would be great if they both got elected to the Alexandria City Council in November, along with Frank Fannon.

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Gail G

7:41 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Tim & Justin lost in 09 mostly because of the Republican plunking scheme, which artificially inflated Alicia's numbers, but that won't happen again because this will be a huge turnout and everyone knows about Alicia now. They're decent candidates. Tim knows transpo issues and Justin knows the budget cold. John and Allison will make good council members and I think their learning curve will be short. I like Paul and don't hold him entirely responsible for BRAC, which hasn't turned out to be the disaster everyone said it would anyway. I was surprised Del did as well as she did in the primary but like I said, the devil you know... I also agree that a lot of people will vote the top of the ticket in November and walk away. That's why the ADC will be working hard to remind voters of the importance of voting the entire ballot. It's especially critical with the school board this year. We have some good candidates - for a change - and I want to see them elected. They're on the bottom of the ballot, so we have to remind people to turn the page over and vote the entire ballot.

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Jim Miller

10:00 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Gail, I'm with you on reminding people to vote the whole ballot, but, here's the true rub of the problem. Long lines, potentially cold weather, Tuesday morning, during the day, or at night is bad, rush hours both included, and people, despite as hard as 'your friends' in the ADC might intend to have people vote the entire ballot, quite frankly, people will vote for president, senator, congressman, mayor, might vote for all the Dems, or might vote for a few. But it's the lower end of the ballot, the people who are running for school board who won't get votes. Thank Tim Lovain and Justin Wilson when they got pissed off that they lost in 2009 for that. As far as transpo issues, you don't need a wonk like Tim Lovain on the council for that. The Alexandria City Council is famous for hiring advisers and I'm sure they can bring in anyone from the transpo industry who's in the D.C. area. Justin Wilson comes off as extremely arrogant and egotistical to quite a few people, more importantly, to many Democrats that I know. Plus, Justin has never won a general election. That being said, they might eek into getting elected this November, just because of the sheer numbers of who people can vote for, who is viable, etc. The only Republican who will be viable is Frank Fannon, period, end of story. Bob Wood can't win, and Alicia "Always Late" Hughes shouldn't run, let alone for the embarrassment that she'll have to endure over the next few months. I'm voting for Frank this November.

JohnFitzgerald

7:11 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Jim I would really encourage you to look at Bob Wood and speak with him before making up your mind. I am with you though with regard to Frank and Allison. Stay cool out there today!!!

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Jim Miller

2:24 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

John, I would hope that Bob Wood comes out in the public, in Alexandria, and states that he's a Republican moderate, because that's the ONLY way he can even think about getting any kind of traction in our town. That's why I think that, overall, Frank Fannon is one of the most skilled and adept Republicans around. Frank knows that if he comes off as a right-wing conservative wing nut, that he'll never have a chance of winning over any voters in Alexandria. Frank is also smart by crafting himself as a left-leaning moderate Republican, although someone told me that he has to play along with the conservatives in his party, even though he's truly not one of them. I've found out that the only thing that Frank seems to be a conservative on is in regard to fiscal responsibilities that the City of Alexandria has to deal with in regard to its budget. Frank has worked hard to keep taxes down, while Justin Wilson, Tim Lovain, Del Pepper and Paul Smedberg, along with Mayor Bill Euille, all voted to jack up property taxes, a few weeks before the May election of 2009. I don't know what they were all drinking, but whatever it was, it had to have made that gang loopy. Who raises taxes right before Election Day? Lovain, Wilson, Pepper, Smedberg and Euille all did. In fairness, they probably thought they needed to raise taxes to keep the budget in line, but, with a City of Alexandria budget so bloated that you'd think that the then city council had something to gain by rasing our taxes!

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Jim Miller

3:09 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Getting back to the issue of Bob Wood's potential electability in the City of Alexandria, I would suggest that he sit down for a great Q&A session with the editors of the Patch, so they can ask him probing questions about issues that voters might be concerned about for the next three years and beyond. Try http://oldtownalexandria.patch.com/users/sharon-mcloone or Drew Hansen, with the DelRay Patch, for starters. Oh, and when you're driving that 1955 DeSoto, keep it a bit to the left! ;-)

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JohnFitzgerald

8:50 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Say Jim.... Sharon actually attended Bob Wood's launch event and wrote the piece above on it. She is a very fair and talented journalist. I haven't visited his website but I reckon you can learn a lot there about his views. Stay cool...

Jim Miller

11:13 pm on Thursday, June 21, 2012

John, oh, in this heat, I'm definitely staying 'cool'. But, seriously, there are only 15 Republicans in the City of Alexandria, with Bob Wood being one of the 15. I've seen his website. Nothing jumps out as being all that impressive, but I guess his website is a 'work in progress'. Also, John, anytime you've got Alicia "Always Late" Hughes, you're in trouble, and Bob Wood's in big trouble there. At least Frank Fannon has built a great groundswell of supporters who can and will help his campaign. Fannon gets it though. Wood still is in the starting block, so to speak, and Alicia "Always Late" Hughes is looking for a place to park her car. Bob Wood, if he wants to gain any traction, needs to speak to the press, to tell them how he wants to help change the city for the next three years and what kind of impact he thinks he can have to contribute to helping to make Alexandria an even better place to live. Frank Fannon is a millionaire with deep pockets and deep community support, plus, Fannon's got great mojo for a Republican in Alexandria. He's a very likable guy who talks to everyone, the press included. Bob Wood needs to read the Fannon Playbook and follow it. Alicia "Always Late" Hughes, she's still driving around the block, looking for a parking space. Bob Wood needs to be like Frank Fannnon, a left-leaning Republican moderate who is at least palatable to Democrats who don't like the Alexandria Democratic Committee, of which there are many throughout Alexandria.

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Jim Miller

3:18 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

I would like to ask a very serious question to any of the 15 Republicans who live in the City of Alexandria, of which, 14 of you are in the Alexandria Republican City Committee. Why, with all of her baggage and problems, of which the human side of any person would reach out to help her, does the ARCC support Alicia Hughes as a candidate for the Alexandria City Council in November. Does anyone in the Alexandria Republican City Committee realize how much she hurts your ticket this Fall? The reason I ask is, that it seems like Alicia Hughes, God love her, is spiraling out of control, lately, and my thought was that if there is anyone in the Alexandria Republican City Committee who can reach out to help her, she really needs it. No person can go through the turmoil in her life that Alicia's going through, from all of her legal troubles with her landlord, to her troubles in landing a good job in Alexandria, to her recently trying to run for both the Alexandria City Public School Board and the Alexandria City Council, at the same time, or so she hoped, so she could evaluate which would be better suited for her as she has to devote time to her father's health issue with cancer. Please don't do what the Alexandria Democratic Committee did to Gail Gordon, who left her hanging out in the wind, as the firestorm of controversy and personal ridicule, embarrassment and humiliation engulfed her. The ADC has no shame for doing that to Gail. The ARCC needs to help Alicia, too, big time.

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Gail G

3:24 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Jim, I asked the same question of a Republican who is very close to Alicia and I received no answer. I explained that personality and politics aside, I thought she needed some sort of intervention, but as far as I know no one has done anything. As being on the ticket, the ACRC only had three candidates vy for six spots, so they couldn't deny Alicia a spot on their ticket. At least, that's how an ACRC member explained it to me. There was nothing he knew of in their bylaws to prevent her form being on the ticket when there were only 3 people for 6 spots.

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Jim Miller

8:16 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Gail, you're right, politics aside, Alicia Hughes probably does, or has needed, some kind of intervention for quite some time. No one can ever enjoy watching her seem to careen from having her landlord sue her, to working in Delaware, to not having a steady income, to now, on a much more personal level for her, to deal with her father's bout with cancer. In our society, many people are dealing with those very same issues today, where they're out of work, money is tight, or non-existent, and the overall daunting task of trying to put gas in a car and having money to eat, too. For Alicia, and I know I have tagged her as "Always Late", which she habitually is now known for in her political life, I do hope that someone from the Alexandria Republican City Committee, the 14 members that they have, and take the time to call her, to tell her they are there for her, to help her at a time when she probably needs it the most. God knows that Alicia is most certainly not alone in having to go through personal struggles. On a very human level, I don't care that she is a Republican, I just hope that someone in the ARCC comes to her aid to help shepherd her through some tough and difficult times and situations that she's had to deal with. I hope that Frank Fannon, who is probably one of the only members of the ARCC who has a really big heart for people, calls Alicia to check in with her to make sure that she gets the help that she needs, because Frank seems to be the kind of guy to do it

Jim Miller

10:59 am on Sunday, June 24, 2012

I would like to seriously know why the Alexandria Republican City Committee is thought of in such low-regard in the City of Alexandria? I know that there are only 15 Republicans in Alexandria, and that 14 of them are members of the ARCC, but why does the Alexandria Republican City Committee, other than Frank Fannon, who of course is a growing political machine, himself, consistently put out candidates that couldn't even win in a race for City Dog Catcher? When the ARCC can't get at least six potential candidates to run for a seat on the Alexandria City Council, it truly shows how weak their organization is as a political entity in our city. I rail on the Alexandria Democratic Committee, for being run by a feckless group of inept bumblers, which is true, but at least they're more out in the public (which, for them, isn't always a good thing) but my point is that they're trying, despite their stumbling, bumbling way that they conduct their organization. For the ARCC, it appears to be a complete non-entity when it comes to local Alexandria politics, which I'm quite sure isn't their intent. My point goes back to the viability of Bob Wood getting elected, which I would have to say is a long shot. And for Alicia, the troubled soul that she is, she doesn't have any chance at all of being reelected in November. Which leaves you with only one guy who 'gets it', Frank Fannon. At least Frank isn't a conservative wing nut, and he'll probably be the only Republican to win in November.

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JohnFitzgerald

9:36 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Jim- you are way out of line... There are 17 Republicans in Alexandria and not 15 which you falsely stated earlier. I saw them with my own two eyes participating in a bowling tournament at bowl america on edsall road which I understand is about to get bulldozed over to make way for condos to accommodate more Presumably democrat metrosexual and childless condo owners. I think that you should publicly apologize to the 2 Republicans you failed to recognize... Shame on you. Everyone deserves to be counted - including the Euille lap-dogs who post here.. Ps- I only went in the bowling alley because I " had an emergency". I am kind of old you know and these things happen. I was not one of the 17 nor do I know how to bowl (well maybe I can granny style). Jim, please come clean about the missing 2 Rs?..

Dennis Auld

11:57 am on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Jim, I enjoy readi ng your comments, and hope that you will continue to contribute to the various threads offered in the Patch. I must say, however, that your opinions are getting rather repetitive and short on backup. You like to say that the ADC is “being run by a feckless group of inept bumblers, which is true” but I have not seen what your reasons are for that opinion. Also your slams of Mr. Wilson and Mr. Lovain could use some explaining to support your opinions. I served on BFAAC for 6 years in which some of those years they did also. I found them to be very sharp in analyzing the budget, asking good questions, and did not seem to have an agenda other than making the City government better. It would also help your opinions if you could tell all of us which citizen committees you have served on. I have found that many people have opinions that are short on a true understanding of the subject they are commenting on. Working on city committees is an excellent way of getting into the details of what these issues are really made up of, and how complex they can be. Your comments about taxes leaves out the economy what has a big effect on the tax rates. You will see in general tax rates were kept down when property values were rising, and increased when values leveled or dropped.

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Jim Miller

12:15 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Dennis, thanks for your compliment, but to address your statement about some of my thoughts and comments 'are getting rather repetitive', I would agree, to a certain extent, but I do always want to think of people who are first-time readers, who quite often may not have read anything that I have previously written, so that's why I have done that, to a process. As far as being short on backup, space-permitting, will allow me to do that when I can. I can tell you though, I know of a TON of progressive liberal Democrats, like me, who are thoroughly disgusted with the 'good ole boy/girl network' that seems to be running the Alexandria Democratic Committee. To simply ignore their problems would be like one were to be wearing blinders. The ADC has HUGE problems, sometimes due to the fault that they just have some politically unskilled volunteers, who, rightly or wrongly, appear to be inept and bumbling in their leadership capabilities, or lack there of. I can also state that I don't think that anyone in the ADC is doing anything to intentionally undermine it as an organization, but there are cycles of efficiency, 'The Peter Principle', as an example, of how everyone there will 'rise to their level of incompetence'. Alexandria has a predominant amount of Democrats who live in the city, most of who are government workers, or work in government-related industries who would already vote for Democrats locally. The ADC doesn't speak for all of them. To think so would be very foolish.

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JohnFitzgerald

9:40 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Um my real estate taxes double on my home between 2000 and 2008, so Mr. Auld I think your stats are questionable. Also to get appointed to a city board, don't you first have to sign a loyalty oath to Herr Euille and agree to be a well behaved lap dog?

Dennis Auld

11:57 am on Sunday, June 24, 2012

We do need to pay for the services our City provides, and my experience with Mr. Wilson and Mr. Lovain were that they were very much in concert with focusing on efficient delivery of services, which services the City should provide, and in keeping the tax rates as low as possible. They have, and continue to address, the long standing concern about the percentage residential property vs. commercial property taxes contribute to the City revenues. There is a general comment I see in many articles in that citizens want these services, but they do not want to pay for them.

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Kathryn Papp

2:07 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

I'm supporting Bob Wood for City Council because our reliance on part-time council members means that tested experience and depth of understanding, not just opinions and good feelings, is critical in engaging peers, staff, and outside consultants.
No other candidate has managed large scale projects, done serious mediation, taught economics at a university, or advanced in their careers because of consistent high quality results. I watched Bob, and the others on the Mayor's Waterfront Work Group, and became convinced that his commitment to achieve the best decisions, his well-tested ability to lead or support complex , team situations is what we need now. There was no evidence of ideological extremism at any time. Listening to everyone and crafting a balanced and fair report was just one of Bob's outstanding contributions - the Mayor thanked him!
Alexandria is a city under stress. Fourteen primary candidates, a record number of citizen filed appeals on city decisions, the battles over transportation projects, and low vacancy rates in commercial sites are examples.
Bob Wood has depth of experience, pragmatism, and knows how to plan and implement large scale projects. Bob's track record results from listening to stakeholders to achieve the best. This combination sets him far above any other candidate.
Finally, incumbants and those who have served, must be balanced by peers with proven capabilties, depth, and fresh outlook - Bob Wood is the only candidate to stand the test.

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Jim Miller

2:48 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Kathryn, if what your saying is who Bob Wood is, he most certainly needs to be on the literal doorstep of every reporter who covers Alexandria City politics, so he can tell his story. If Bob Wood is not a right wing conservative Republican wing nut, he might have a chance to gain some traction, but I still think and believe, that Frank Fannon is the ONLY Republican who has a true shot of winning in November.

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Kathryn Papp

2:59 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Keep on open mind. Ask questions. Listen. Talk about it. We need to build a city council with experienced and talented people.
Keep posted for more from Bob - prevailing against the odds is a grand ole American tradition!

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Jim Miller

3:14 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Kathryn, I hear you, but Republicans 'winning' is not a 'grand ole' Alexandria tradition.

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Dennis Auld

9:31 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Kathryn, with all due respect, it is pretty clear when you read the comments by Mr. Wood when on the Waterfront Committee, and his comments while on the riverfront walk, and his comments regarding his time spent on the Beauregard issue, that his perspective is confined to that of Old Town Alexandria. He simply does not relate to, or understand the issues of all citizens of Alexandria. Of course, this is fine with you as your record regarding the waterfront plan is clear in the public record. Leaving Jim’s comments about him being a right wing nut alone, I am more concerned that he does not relate to all citizens of Alexandria. Jim expresses a concern supporting why he will not be elected. I am expressing another concern, that he would not represent all of Alexandria equally. As you know, Alexandria is small enough to have a system whereby Council is to represent all of Alexandria, not to be representative of one area. That is my problem with Mr. Wood.

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Jim Miller

9:53 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Dennis, I wholeheartedly agree with you, that Bob Wood, would clearly rely on his strengths of what has got him any distinction, so far, and that has been his work on the Waterfront Small Plan. I too do not believe that he can address a myriad of issues that confront the entire city, not only in the next three years, but in the next five to ten, as decisions that the next Alexandria City Council will deliberate on and make decisions on, can and will effect everyone, from the West End, to Old Town, and from Cameron Station, to Potomac Yard. Additionally, the Alexandria Republican City Committee is a paper tiger, they've got no roar, they couldn't even muster up six viable candidates to run for city council from their own party. And out of those six, and, yes, I've stated it before, Frank Fannon is the ONLY one, including Bob Wood and Alicia Hughes, who could possibly win. By the way, I never said that Bob Wood was a right wing conservative wing nut, it's just that is the public perception of who he is as a candidate. I also feel that he will not represent well, the vast amount of renters in Alexandria, especially on the issue of affordable housing. That being said, I don't feel though, that our city should subsidize for affordable housing, nor should it condemn and seize any property for either affordable or public housing. Since we don't have a ward system in place, council members represent everyone, and I question Bob Wood's ability to be effective in that task.

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JohnFitzgerald

9:55 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Didn't Bob Wood grow up in Alexandria? I think he also lived in a variety of neighborhoods in alexandria. I think Mr. Auld talks around a good point which is that we need wards in this city and not 6 "at large" candidates. With a ward system, we would have true representation in city government for all neighborhoods versus the current Del Ray Mafia/ Euille Lap dog crew in power today. What are everyone's thoughts on wards?

JohnFitzgerald

10:01 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Jim- what are your thoughts on having a truly representative government in alexandria ( a ward system)? I think I know what the Euille Lap Dog Corps (ELDC) will say....

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Dennis Auld

10:03 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Mr. Fitzgerald, I assume the value of your property rose accordingly during that period. As for the rest of your comment, your point if view is self explanatory and needs no response.

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JohnFitzgerald

10:10 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

My property's value did rise during that time. How does that make it acceptable for the city to charge me greater and greater taxes because of that..?. Did my properties increased value mean that their cost to provide services to my household increased? The city milked the increase in property values during the past 12+ years. Would you care to comment about the ward system idea or should I assume that your non response to that point shows that you are in fact a member of the ELDC?

Jim Miller

10:19 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

John, in a city as small as Alexandria is, a ward system wouldn't be an efficient way of city government. As it is now, you have most council members on council, who are from different parts of the city, who geographically identify with their 'home territory', along with every square inch of the city. Plus, for example, people from the 'Arlington' part of Alexandria, could reach out to any council member, as none who are on council now live close to that part of town. There might be merit for a ward system of government, no doubt, as to the fact that each council member would have a block of territory that they would represent, but let me counter that thought, with saying that not all council members are equally skilled at dealing with any one issue, or any particular facet of their responsibilities of the population as a whole that they represent. The way it is now, people can call, email or contact all of their council members, or some on a case-by-case basis, relying on the known strengths or background of any council member. For instance, Rob Krupicka has a background in education issues, Frank Fannon and Kerry Donley, both have backgrounds in mortgage and financing, so my point being, is that if we did have a ward system, it would or could potentially restrict them from helping people from all over our city. Alexandria is only 15 square miles. It's just not big enough to have a ward system of government, no matter how much people think it would work, it wouldn't.

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JohnFitzgerald

10:46 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

Jim- Richmond has a ward system. They are 45 or so percent bigger than us populating wise (200k vs our 140k). Fredericksburg also has a ward system (population 25k). I think our city attorney (Jim Banks) served on city council in Richmond but he didn't last long there and got beat in his re-election bid by a rather radical gentleman who wound up in jail. My point is that (1) it looks as though some other cities both smaller and larger than us have ward systems, and (2) perhaps Mr. Banks can comment on this... I think it's worth investigating...

Jim Miller

11:07 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

John, let me be specific, not all of our current council members or future council members, will have an equal amount of organizational skills for themselves, as individuals, or equally, their staffs. If Alexandria had a ward system in place, for instance, you might have some wards being more efficiently run than other wards, which would effect the city as a whole. It just wouldn't be the most effective way to have Alexandria run as a city government, in my opinion. By the way, our city attorney, Jim Banks, he lives all the way out in Leesburg, in Loudoun County, out in the hinterlands, so I'm not too sure he'd be the best person to state the good attributes of a ward system for which he is not a resident of the City of Alexandria, despite his background in Richmond, which has a vastly more polarized population than we do. I see where you're going with this, so try to sell me on why Alexandria needs a ward system, if you think that the current form of government doesn't work. I though, can tell you, that the system in place, offers people from all parts of our city to run, get elected, and be a part of our city's future. I'm no fan of the Alexandria Democratic Committee, every one knows that, and I also think that the Alexandria Republican City Committee is a complete joke of a political organization in Alexandria. The ARCC is a true paper tiger. The ARCC is so small they can hold their meetings in one of Pat Troy's restrooms. Sell me on why Alexandria should have wards.

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Dennis Auld

11:28 am on Monday, June 25, 2012

John, I agree totally with Jim as to wards vs. at large. Alexandria is too small to have wards, and I do not think the issues facing Alexandria would be any better served with a ward structure. In fact, I think it wouldn't work as well. I would like to see a much higher percentage of registered voters come out for elections.

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Jim Miller

12:28 pm on Monday, June 25, 2012

John, let me be more specific here. People throughout Alexandria who want to reach out to their city council members, can and probably usually do, contact ALL of them in regards to a problem, or a specific issue, or whatever situation that they might have. As such, council members then, in turn, probably contact our city manager's office, where he then contacts city staff in regard to the particular issue raised. You now have, as a citizen, a greater voice, or impact, by raising an issue of concern, to the mayor and council members, than if you were to have a ward system in place. Let me say, once again, that not every council member has the same organizational skills as each other. It's just human nature. And that being said, if we had a ward system in place, the administrative staffs wouldn't be all organizationally equal as well. So the spectrum of our city government, governed by a ward system, probably wouldn't have a level playing field. That being said though, I think that I am getting your thought of implementing a ward system in Alexandria, to potentially weaken the current 'one party system' of the Alexandria Democratic Committee, and their so-called, firm grip on all the levers of our government here. The Alexandria Democratic Committee has proven itself to be, unintentionally, of course, to be a stumble bumble group of inept and unskilled political 'wannabes', who do need to be retired, and new fresh voices need to take their place, and not soon enough.

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