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Council Approves Potomac Yard Development Containing New Giant

Future of Monroe Avenue Giant remains in question.

 

Alexandria City Council approved the construction of a six-story, mixed-use development in Potomac Yard on Saturday that will include 253 residential units and a 69,000-square foot Giant grocery store.

The development will be built just off Route 1 and north of Alexandria Fire Station 209 on Main Line Boulevard between E. Glebe Road and Seaton Avenue. It will have two and a half levels of underground parking for residents and grocery store customers. Twelve of the residential units will be reserved at an affordable rate.

The Giant will consume most of the ground floor of the development and is expected to include a Starbucks, bakery, pharmacy and an outdoor cafe at the corner of E. Glebe Road and Main Line Boulevard.

The construction of the Giant in Potomac Yard, which won’t open for a few years, will put three Giant stores within a small area in the northeastern section of the city, including one on Monroe Avenue in Del Ray and another on First Street in North Old Town. Another Giant sits on S. Glebe Road just north of the Arlington County border.

Giant holds a lease on its 20,000-square-foot Monroe Avenue store for another three years and “has given every indication” it will remain there for that time, said Gwen Wright, development division chief with the city’s Department of Planning.

“Giant has not told us directly that they would not be extending,” Wright said during the council meeting on Saturday. “There’s a strong possibility in the next three years they may not renew their lease.”

Members of the Alexandria Economic Development Partnership and the Planning Department met with the Del Ray Citizens Association in September to discuss the future of the Monroe Giant and other properties in Del Ray.

Long term plans for the two lots in the 400 block of Monroe Avenue that hold the Giant and nearby CVS call for either a consolidated mixed-use project or maintaining the sites as commercial parcels.

Barbara Ross, the city’s deputy planning director, said in September that the Giant lot in its current state would be attractive to many businesses.

“Right now, if you’re talking about Giant, it’s a good building,” Ross said. “There’s no need to improve the building. Its footprint would be one of the perks.”

The Giant lot has parking on-site, which is also seen as a perk.

AEDP employees said they have been looking at the gaps in the market and demographics to determine would make the Giant property and other lots in Del Ray a draw to retailers.

AEDP reps mentioned stores like The Fresh Market, REI or Eastern Mountain Sports, Dean and DeLuca and perhaps a fishmonger as possible retailers worth approaching. They also mentioned an Eastern Market-type setup for the Giant lot.

Those in attendance at September’s DRCA meeting also filled out surveys from AEDP listing what they would like to see come to Del Ray. 

The Del Ray Business Association is expected to discuss the future of the Monroe Avenue Giant at its November luncheon.

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Related Topics: Alexandria City Council 2012, Alexandria Economic Development Partnership, Barbara Ross, Del Ray Citizens Association, Giant, Gwen Wright, Potomac Yard, and del ray business association

N Steven Gray

6:49 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

The address in question is 400 E Mason Avenue - not Mt. Vernon Avenue

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Drew Hansen

8:11 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Thanks for the correction. I'll make it in the story.

Neighbor

8:26 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

I would hate to see the Monroe Giant and CVS go away. It's amazing how many people walk to the stores, including myself! We talk about how walkable the neighborhood is - these stores are part of that story.

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Jessica Highland

8:48 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Have any other grocery chains been approached for the space? What about Wegman's? I personally don't use the two Giants that we have now, I trek over to Harris Teeter in Shirlington since the PY HT closed several months ago. I would love to see something new rather than the same old chains that are already all over Arlington/Alexandria.

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Barbara

2:53 pm on Saturday, October 20, 2012

Jessica--Just a quick FYI--You may want to try the Harris Teeter at 4641 Duke Street, rather than schlepping to Shirlington. The West End of Alexandria is easy to access, and parking is a gift.

Wile E. Coyote

9:21 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

If you have to drive to a grocery store, Del Ray is no longer a neighborhood and our walk score goes way down. A fish market, Dean & De Luca & REI are NOT grocery stores. Bicycles are not an option in Potomac Yards--unless you have a death wish.

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KP

9:34 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

I live in Del Ray and the new Giant will be closer to me than the current Giant so I think Del Ray would still be a neighborhood.

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Pete

10:02 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

I agree absolutely. Del Ray does not need more specialty retail geared toward the wealthy. A main-line grocery is vital for the health of a walkable neighborhood. While that Giant is certainly not on a par with Harris Teeter or even other Giants, other grocers in the area would have to be interested and should be pursued by all interested parties.

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John Humphrey

12:21 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Losing a walkable Giant would be a significant loss to the south end of Del Ray. Has anyone done a survey of the walking traffic into the Giant? It would appear to be significant based upon the foot traffic with groceries walking in front of our house on DeWitt. We need a store that serves everyday needs in the neighborhood, not high end retail that will primarily draw from elsewhere and neighbors will shop at once or twice a year. Losing a grocery store that is walkable will diminish quality of life for many of us on Del Ray's south and eastern sides. It's part of the reason we decided to move into more dense townhouse areas rather than homes on larger lots that can support larger refrigerators and stand-alone freezers to store food like our friends in more remote suburbs have. Having a walkable grocery store makes it easier for us to imagine aging into retirement and remain a part of our community. I shop for groceries in other locations if I need some specialty items, but for day-to-day needs, our family treks over to Giant on foot two to three times a week.

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DD

9:45 pm on Saturday, March 16, 2013

I agree. we love how we can walk to the Giant and CVS!

DelRayRez

10:05 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

I say replace the Del Ray Giant. It lacks variety and the parent company does little to maintain it (the time to update the store directory is long overdue). People mostly shop there out of convenience because it's close but I typically end up going elsewhere anyway because it doesn't carry what I need.

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Wile E. Coyote

3:05 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I would much rather walk to a smaller friendlier place than have to always drive (which is what will happen if we have to cross the increasingly busy Jeff Davis Hwy to the new Giant). It would sure be great if they'd upgrade the Giant on Monroe--best of both worlds...I've wanted that for years.

Doug

10:08 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Please AEDP: keep the major commercial establishments (Dean & Deluca, REI, EMS, etc.) at a bare minimum. No one wants Del Ray to start turning into a Clarendon. We've already got enough of these types of places showing up in King St. in Old Town.

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Jonathan Krall

1:45 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

FWIW, I agree. Local businesses support local workers and business-owners. Chain stores only support low-paid local workers--most of the profits leave the local community.

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2:42 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

@Jonathan Krall: So chain stores only support non-local workers? And since when do chains pay worse than local, mostly small businesses? At least with a chain the worker is more likely to have health insurance and a 401k! Not saying I want a bunch of chains here, but let's not overstate the case for local small businesses.

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Wile E. Coyote

3:06 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

REI? How is that a vital part of a neighborhood?! The only food they sell is trail mix! I agree, Doug!

Dave

10:22 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

I'd love to see a diner, something like the Silver Diner but ideally independent. Booths, jukeboxes, broad menu. So many families flock to Los Tios because it's large, loud, and kid-friendly, and I think would flood another similar place. There are too many tiny boutique restaurants and not enough for families.

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McBrinn

10:59 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

I'll say this and I'll mark the date- 10-19-2012- if we end up with a huge condo development on that lot with some extra lame chain type anchor (think Clarendon ala Crate and Barrel, Pottery Barn, etc) it will be the death knell of Del Ray. I hope the council is reading this.

DO NOT PUT CONDOS OR BIG BOX RETAIL THERE. YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING DEL RAY!

We need a walkable/ bikeable grocer and pharmacy that doesn't involve "underground parking" and CROSSING ROUTE ONE for Christ's sake. I can't even begin to tell you how many of my neighbors are depressed and terrified- yes, actually depressed- that the small local Giant and CVS may close. What is a really enjoyable little errand- dumping the kids in the stroller and walking up to the Giant for a gallon of milk, a loaf of bread, or some eggs and then hitting the YMCA park will become a dreaded load-the-kids-into a car-take-10 minutes getting through the new crappy lights at Main Line, and driving into a hole in the ground to hunt for a parking spot.

Seriously- look at other major cities (New York, San Fran, Seattle, Chicago) they all have small, hyper local grocers that do really well.

Please do whatever it takes to keep that spot as a designated grocer.

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Neighbor

10:59 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

I agree the Giant needs an upgrade, but it doens't need to be eliminated. For those who need a large grocery - get in your car and go. Please don't compare our small, walkable grocery store that meet our basic needs to a large grocery store that includes a pharmacy, coffee shop, butcher, bakery. It's not comparing apples to apples. We also must not forget the friendly staff at both our Monroe Giant and CVS. I appreciate going in and they know me and I know them by name!

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dandaman606

12:25 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

The filthy Monroe Giant can't close soon enough, in my opinion.Anyone who thinks Giant will keep the Monroe location open, with a larger, newer, store around the corner, is crazy. By the way, when did it become the "Del Ray Giant"? I guess I missed the renaming ceremony.

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McBrinn

2:01 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Yeah, you did miss it. You weren't invited because no one likes you.

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Scooby's Doo

6:47 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I always call it the Petite Giant. And yes, it sort of sucks.

Autoexec.bat

12:41 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Turn the "Del Ray Giant" into an elementary school, because the city has no business building as many new housing units as are being built without addressing school overcrowding.

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Matthew Braun

2:53 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I think the concerns about crossing Rt 1 work if you're talking about going to the grocery store would be the same for taking kids to school. What we need is a vast network of tunnels.

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FatElvis

2:58 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

You want to stop school crowding? Raze Arlandria!

Cathryn S

2:01 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I hope this location stays as a grocery store. I frequently walk to the Giant--sure, it could be better, but I get staples there and I like the staff

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Mess

2:56 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

The cognitive dissonance is striking. The only way you can have a small grocer (or walkability at all, really) is to have density. You have to have multiple vertical residences (i.e., condos) if you want to get density. You can't have one without the other.

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Wile E. Coyote

3:10 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Sorry, this doesn't make any sense! So the Giant isn't doing well because there's no density? There's definitely no density, but it's always busy. It's got staples, friendly staff & is across from the Y. Perfect!

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Autoexec.bat

3:15 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

@Wile E. Coyote: It's not hard for the Giant to seem busy when it only has 3 checkout lines. It's no longer a viable use for such a valuable piece of property, as proven by Giant's unwillingness to upgrade the store.

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3:09 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Fact #1: The Monroe Giant is a dump.
Fact #2: The VAST majority of people talking about preserving the "walkable" Giant wouldn't deign to actually walk there. You like the IDEA of walking there. Just like 95% of people I've met in 8 years in DC/Del Ray like the IDEA of commuting by Metro but still drive to work anyway.

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McBrinn

3:34 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

It has 5 checkouts, not 3. Again proving you don't know the subject.

McBrinn

3:32 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

You don't have a single clue as to what you're talking about. As someone mentioned above, Dewitt and Leslie are virtual highways of WALKERS carrying groceries. Do yourself a favor on any weeknight or Saturday/Sunday and park your car in the lot. Just watch how many exit Giant and continue away on foot. I see neighbors from blocks away each time I've been in there and they've all walked.

As for it being a "dump" what effect does that have on staples such as milk, bread, eggs, TP, bananas, beer, wine, soda, a cheese, pasta, canned tomatoes, bacon, beans ice cream, frozen veggies, peanut butter, spices, soda, etc? All those products arrive hermetically sealed. It's impossible that they'd be any less sanitary than comparable items at Whole Foods.

Methinks someone is a sucker for marketing.

"My, my, my, these canned beans from Whole Foods are soooo much better than those disgusting canned beans from Giant!"

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3:40 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I've been to exactly one Whole Foods in my life, so there's that. The Giant is a depressing dump. While perhaps not unsanitary, it's still a dump. I will spend an hour in the parking lot this weekend so I can witness this "virtual highway" of walkers. I am prepared to be truly blown away.

I am sorry that you're going to lose your precious walkable Giant. My hunch is that 90% of Del Ray is cheering for something better.

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Danny

11:02 am on Monday, February 4, 2013

McBrinn -- so hermetically sealed staples are just fabulous in a musty old giant, but when the potomac yards HT experiences a sewage overflow, no amount of bleach could ever bring it back to your standards?

Nate McKenzie

3:51 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

When did we all get so sensitive that any disagreement has to devolve into personal attacks? For perspective, these are personal opinions about a grocery store.

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McBrinn

3:52 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I'm not saying something better wouldn't... be better. All I'm saying is please let it remain a grocer and not become a Crate and Barrel below 275, $500,000 one-bedroom apts with .27 parking spots per unit. Clearly you see others here lamenting the predicament and can understand that a sizeable chunk of the folks with kids in this section of Del Ray heavily rely upon Giant for things families burn through quickly. I know that each week my house goes through 4 gallons of milk, 3 loaves of bread, a dozen eggs, 5 bottles of wine, 6 rolls of TP. These staples are readily available within a short walk. It's gonna suck if I (and everyone else) now has get in their cars, load up their kids to cross Rt. 1 against lights that never seem well timed to hunt for a parking spot to simply get these staples.

Have you ever lived in NYC? You'd probably understand this better if you had.

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Autoexec.bat

3:59 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

One need not live in NYC to understand why bodegas and the like make sense for NYC. Del Ray is not NYC.

BTW, the traffic south of Potomac Yard is going to royally suck in about 5 years anyway, so we might as well get something nice for our troubles. The current Giant ain't it.

McBrinn

4:11 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I'm not talking about bodegas. At all. I'm talking about markets comparable in size to the Monroe Giant. There's two in Stuyvesant, a handful in Grammercy and I think a couple more in Union Square. They're all within walking distance of each other yet they survive and thrive. Del Ray needn't be NYC for the comparison to make sense. People shop where they live. I don't live by Glebe Road. I live near Braddock Road. Ergo I don't want to lose Giant. Neither do my neighbors.

I think the really bad traffic will start in Crystal City and eventually back up to Old Town so I think we're all in for a sh*t sandwhich. Just wait until all those new condos by the post office to get occupied too! Sweet!

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Nate McKenzie

4:19 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I agree about the size - small as it is can work real good in these types of neighborhoods. I'm not sure what the market surveys these guys conduct show, but I would have thought that the addition of the mega-Giant up the road still leaves a niche for a smaller grocer that's catering to the smaller, non-weekly shopping trip, especially once the condos go in.

Nate McKenzie

4:28 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

For a little while there, we actually got the comments from the election off the main page! It was awesome!

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Drew Hansen

4:30 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

It's going to be a slow march to Nov. 6, Nate, and I am already weary.

Betty

5:01 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Yeah. Turn it into a big park. It's no longer a neighborhood anyway. Lost its post office years ago, then one drug store. And over the summer, it's second drug store. Big, tall, ugly, apartment building with no public green space and very little open space coming. No longer a neighborhood.

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Doug

5:19 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

I'll throw this out there into the pit and let everyone wrestle with it:
The land on and around the Monroe Giant/CVS and the adjoining Landbay L (including the park between Braddock Rd and the middle school) are all prime locations for highrises and mixed use (commercial on bottom/residential on top) because of their proximity to the Metro. By proximity I mean within walking distance.

It was mentioned at the city council debate on Monday, and I'm sure most of you have already heard this, but Braddock Road Metro is one of the most underutilized Metro stops in the entire system. Coincidentally it also has the highest density of people who bike to/from it. But I digress. The reason it is under utilized is because the lack of density immediately around the Metro station.

Before you reply to this do yourself a favor and ensure that haven't already commented in this same thread and complained about A) getting in your car to drive somewhere or B) traffic from new development surrounding Rt.1 and Del Ray.

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Nate McKenzie

4:40 pm on Saturday, October 20, 2012

I wouldn't be disappointed if 5 story apartment buildings were put in Landbay L (metros are there for density) although there is not a lot of room in that triangle of land. I think they need to make access to the metro from this side of the tracks a little easier if they do that. I understand there are 5-6 highrises of varying height going in just on the other side of the tracks from Landbay L (Braddock Gateway). I think they're scheduled to start construction this fall but I couldn't find it on the City development map.

Jennifer Atkins

5:27 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

The Giant and CVS properties are privately owned (by different owners). Giant's decison to renew or not renew its lease will be a business decision based on the viability of the smaller store in light of the newer one close by. It is entirely possible that they will view the two stores as complementary. In other words, whether the Giant (or the CVS which has a much longer lease) stays or goes is not up to the city. Even if Giant does not renew the lease, the owner will determine to whom to lease it (or alternatively whether to redevelop). While AEDP can help encourage businesses to consider leasing there and can help identify businesses interested in or potentially complementary to what is already here, only the owner of the property can determine what goes in there next. (That is, so long is the use complies with the existing commercial zoning.) Given the differences in ownership and lease terms of the two sites and prior statements from the owners, it seems that redevelopment along the scale suggested above (big apartment buildings etc) is highly unlikely. The DRCA meeting about these properties and the Audi dealership property was very interesting and informative. I encourage people to read the minutes in the newsletter/posted on the website and to view the information on Del Ray on the AEDP site.

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McBrinn

8:10 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

Thanks. My wife passed away in April after an extremely brave fight with pancreatic cancer. I'm raising the girls on my own.

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Drew Hansen

8:41 pm on Friday, October 19, 2012

A comment was deleted for violating our terms of use. Please refrain from attacking each other personally.

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Kim Moore

7:26 am on Saturday, October 20, 2012

I kind of like idea of putting a new school there. One is going to be needed as PY is more fully developed. Putting a school there might be feasible and could be worth investigating.

I rarely go to the Monroe Giant unless I am in a pinch for some basic stuff. Re-habbing the building to make it two businesses with a smaller, staple-focused grocery and one other business (diner, sandwich shop, etc.) could also work.

Once the Yates Corner property is completed and we see what types of businesses go in there, we may have a better idea of what sorts of businesses would complement the neighborhood at the Giant location.

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Drew Hansen

7:28 am on Saturday, October 20, 2012

The new soccer fields at Simpson Stadium Park were built on a plot of land that is reserved for a new school years down the line.

rick hood

6:36 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

There is a hyper local focused small independent in Richmond called Ellwood Thompson's. Its format is around 20,000sf. It just opened 2 months ago in Rockville Maryland as Dawson's Market named after a long time local farming family, the Dawson's. It's mission is to be the heart and soul of the community.

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